Previously on Survivor: Peih-Gee won Reward for Portonia. She chose to take the bed instead of individual Immunity.
Day 12: It’s time for the Immunity Challenge. 6 members of each challenge will work together to roll a large log up a hill. The first tribe to roll their log over the finish line wins. Sandra sits out for Portonia. Survivors Ready, Go! Dasterro, who is made up of 5 girls + Paschal, falls quickly behind. Portonia, PG, Matty, Earl, Elisabeth, Colby, and Rodger (not counting Sandra), is doing well with several strong men and women. Rodger collapses halfway through and is heaving. Elisabeth LEAVES the log to help him. In theory, Dasterro could make up ground, but they don’t. Portonia wins Immunity! Back at Dasterro, it is Denise, Paschal, and Neleh vs. Sugar, Colleen, and Courtney. The girls attempt to talk to Denise. Knowing that she is somewhat slow-witted, they hope she’ll turn. Denise says she’ll think about it. “That’s bad.” Courtney says. Neleh, Paschal, and Denise are targeting Colleen. Sugar is “nice” and Courtney is distantly aligned with Denise, leaving Colleen. The 3 girls are targeting Neleh, whom Denise likes less than Paschal. They tell her his. Everything is in Denise’s hands.
Now for your part: Who will be the 6th person voted out of Survivor: All-Stars 2: Denise, Paschal, Neleh, Sugar, Courtney, or Colleen?
anyone else extremely pissed that brendan was f***ed over. he deserved to go farther in this game.
i hate that the whole tribe turned on him even his exile alliance.
i mean seriously coach is sooooooooo freakin annoying and those stories he makes up are just so unbelievable and ridiculous.
JT better win now… hes the only one that deserves it. ((or sierra but just cause she didnt turn on brendan))
Previously on Survivor: Portonia won Reward. At Dasterro, an irritated Colby wanted Sugar out. Colby, Erik, Pashcal, and Neleh need a 5th wheel to get her out. They chose to approach Kenny…
Day 6: It’s time for the Immunity Challenge. There is a large seesaw-like platform. Each tribe will select 5 members to stand on either side. The object is to get everyone from the opposing tribe to fall off. However, each tribe can only stay on their side of the platform. You must shift your weight to make the other tribe fall off. Every 10 minutes it is mandatory for someone from each tribe to jump off. Courtney can not sit out again. Erik, Colby, Courtney, Kenny, and Neleh play for Dasterro. For Portonia, we have Tom, Chris, Peih-Gee, Elisabeth, and Matty. Go! Weight distribution stays even. After an easy 10 minutes, Courtney and Elisabeth get off. Both tribes start jumping, making the platform wobble. 20 minutes pass. Neleh and Peih-Gee jump off. It is up to the men. Dasterro has a rhythm that has the platform almost rippling. Portonia is unsteady. A half-hour passes and Kenny and Chris gladly get out. The competition is fierce. Tom and Matty work well to counteract the rippling effect of Erik and Colby’s jumping. At one point, the platform suddenly goes still due to the neutralizing movements. This causes Erik to lose his balance. Portonia seizes this opportunity. They jump and Erik falls off! 40 minutes are up. Colby MUST jump off. This means that Portonia wins Immunity! Back at Dasterro, Colby is getting his “Anti-Sugar” group together. They just need Kenny. Instead, Kenny tells Sugar. They scramble to try and get Courtney, Denise, and Colleen to vote one of the others out. Colleen, Sugar, and Courtney have maintained their alliance and are in agreement. However, that doesn’t mean Kenny can’t turn…
Who will be the first person voted out of Dasterro: Courtney, Denise, Colleen, Sugar, Kenny, Colby, Neleh, Paschal, or Erik?
Day 1: The Dasterro Tribe arrives at their camp. We are in the rural hills of Chile. Immediately, Paschal and Neleh (Best Buds in Marquesas) reunite. Ken and Sugar hug as well. However, Courtney and Denise are another story. “Will I be stuck with that accent for another month?” Courtney asks during a confessional. Erik is as excited to see Colby as he was Ozzy in Micronesia. The two go off looking for wood. “It’s been ten minutes and the two boy scouts are already earning merit badges.” says Colleen. Denise still has her mullet ponytail thing…Neleh and Paschal are somewhat withdrawn, as they dislike everyone except Colby. “I watched their seasons,” says Neleh, “I don’t like ‘em.” Sugar and Ken have reconciled since Gabon. When Kenny forgives Sugar, she begins to cry. Erik and Colby return and begin to build a shelter with the help of Kenny, Denise, Neleh, and Pashcal. Sugar, Courtney, and Colleen go off to “gather fruit.” They talk about strategy. Sugar says she can get Kenny on her side. Courtney says she can get Denise. Along with Colleen, this 5-member alliance could dominate…in theory. There are problems. The members are weak and the tribe would lose challenges. It was just an idea thrown out there but it would get them through Tribal Councils.
Now for your part: You’ve just seen Dasterro’s first day. You can now share any thoughts so far. Also, will this potential 5-member alliance of Courtney, Denise, Colleen, Sugar, and Ken be successful?
Ozzy is NOT in the season. His name is mentioned but he is NOT in the game.
Besides the obvious of blaming the game when you lose, Mark Burnett talks about what Survivor is, a reality tv show depicting social dynamics, a social game.
Russell says he has a social game, referring to controlling tribemates like Jerri when it comes time to vote. However, Russell fails to see winning over the jury is part of controlling, part of the social game, and he has failed in that aspect, a very important aspect. All of the BS aside, I think he’s just coming up with excuses to every poignant question, in order to save face or not appear publicly embarrassed, when deep down he knows he has screwed up, but he won’t admit that, publicly at least. It’s understandable that he doesn’t admit that publicly. But my question is why won’t his fans admit that? That’s just disturbing, in a stalkerish way, when people, who don’t know Russell in person or aren’t part of his life in person, are defending Russell like they’re him.
(Russell is like that energy sucker, sucking all of their energy in the tribe)
Russell blames the jury for being too vindictive, but Russell fails to see that is part of the game, dealing with consequences (in other words, your actions within a group can come back to affect you). It’s not like this has only happened when Russell started playing Survivor. Influencing the jury is a main focus of the game Survivor. That’s part of the social aspects that Mark Burnett talked about: to win your peers or to influence your peers to vote for you for the million dollar prize. If it’s the physical surviving that won over Russell’s audience, then maybe the appropriate show for them is Eco Challenge, not Survivor.
Russell talked about winning the Player Of The Season. If that’s any indication of being the best player in Survivor, then what does it mean when Rupert came in close second with only around 2000 votes less than Russell’s (out of millions of votes)? Besides that number being a relatively small percentage, Rupert’s 2nd place shows that the voting for Player Of The Season is an indication of anything but the best player, since Rupert obviously did not play as well as some of the others. One indication for this kind of voting (America’s vote) may be popularity. Another may be a compliment to the editors for convincing America to jump on the Russell wagon. Parvati said it best that (the editors through the use of) Russell brainwashed America to vote for Russell Hantz, even though it was meant as a joke.
"All Russell said was I’m Russell Hantz." lol
Russell fans, do you see the light now? Do you admit that Russell’s game play was ultimately flawed? Why or why not?
you cared to answer, Eric. pot kettle black.
I posted this question partially to want to know what goes on in the heads of his fans and partially to share those interesting youtube videos of Mark Burnett. Cheers!
"how is it possible to be in control and voting people off and have the jury on there side?"
Make people think it’s the other guy who backstabbed and voted your target off. Be able to not make too many dirty moves to lose people’s respect at the end, yet not too little dirty moves either that you get voted off. That’s where the skill lies. That’s the social game. It bothers me to see some people not getting this, not understanding this. If there are no consequences waiting for you at the end, i.e. the jury, then it would be an easier game: everyone would be playing hard to eliminate each other like Russell did. Because the jury has the final vote, people try not to appear playing hard and not to do what Russell did. For 18 seasons, the jury and this game have always been like this, but now that Russell has been on it for the last 2 seasons, all of a sudden the audience sides with Russell because he makes the loudest noise? He may be entertaining but that’s no reason to grant him a win
Besides the obvious of blaming the game when you lose, Mark Burnett talks about what Survivor is, a "reality" tv show depicting social dynamics, a social game.
Russell says he has a social game, referring to controlling tribemates like Jerri when it comes time to vote. However, Russell fails to see winning over the jury is part of controlling, part of the social game, and he has failed in that aspect, a very important aspect. All of the BS aside, I think he’s just coming up with excuses to every poignant question, in order to save face or not appear publicly embarrassed, when deep down he knows he has screwed up, but he won’t admit that, publicly at least. It’s understandable that he doesn’t admit that publicly. But my question is why won’t his fans admit that? That’s just disturbing, in a stalkerish way, when people, who don’t know Russell in person or aren’t part of his life in person, are defending Russell like they’re him.
(Russell is like that energy sucker, sucking all of their energy in the tribe)
Russell blames the jury for being too vindictive, but Russell fails to see that is part of the game, dealing with consequences (in other words, your actions within a group can come back to affect you). It’s not like this has only happened when Russell started playing Survivor. Influencing the jury is a main focus of the game Survivor. That’s part of the social aspects that Mark Burnett talked about: to win your peers or to influence your peers to vote for you for the million dollar prize. If it’s the physical surviving that won over Russell’s audience, then maybe the appropriate show for them is Eco Challenge, not Survivor.
Russell talked about winning the Player Of The Season. If that’s any indication of being the best player in Survivor, then what does it mean when Rupert came in close second with only around 2000 votes less than Russell’s (out of millions of votes)? Besides that number being a relatively small percentage, Rupert’s 2nd place shows that the voting for Player Of The Season is an indication of anything but the best player, since Rupert obviously did not play as well as some of the others. One indication for this kind of voting (America’s vote) may be popularity. Another may be a compliment to the editors for convincing America to jump on the Russell wagon. Parvati said it best that (the editors through the use of) Russell brainwashed America to vote for Russell Hantz, even though it was meant as a joke.
"All Russell said was I’m Russell Hantz." lol
Russell fans, do you see the light now? Do you admit that Russell’s game play was ultimately flawed? Why or why not?
guess his ego got in the way of the million dollar prize and the title of sole survivor. after trying to control his tribe and the game, he failed at controlling his ego during the last tribal council.
All he had to do was say: look, I’m sorry for what I did but it is a game and I had to do what I did because you guys are tough competitors. But noooooooo, instead he said, I’m better than you, deal with it. How does the jury gonna respond to that!? How does anyone? Naturally, people would respond with: ok, fine, you don’t get my vote, you deal with it. All it took from Russell was to manipulate the jury one last time and he choked. He’s not a closer. His address to the jury in the previous season was better than this. I guess he was just burnt out from too much Survivor in the end.
Everyone is like Russell got robbed, the jury is full of sore losers, or Russell played the best game of Survivor ever but I heavily disagree with the last statement. Three sole survivors Todd Herzog, Yul Kwon and JT are all better players. Russell fans fail to realize that courting a jury is a part of the game and Russell’s play only alienated the jury. Todd from Survivor China kept a strong voting alliance working throughout the game without heavily angering so many members. Yul Kwon aka "The Godfather" from Survivor Cook Islands was able to flip a vote and give his outnumbered tribe an advantage and the eliminate the rest of the other tribe one by one. Most of all Yul was able to court the jury in which some members of the other tribe were so angry that Jonathan flipped, they only wanted to be voted out after he was or else they were not going to vote for Yul at the end. Russell was lucky because Galu turned on their own member Erik and then isolated another one of their members Shambo. Russell didn’t need to do much, Galu just self destructed. JT from Survivor Tocantins was able to build good relations with everyone on the other tribe, eliminate the threats without stirring up too much trouble and stay loyal to his biggest partner Stephen. Russell caused unnecessary suffering by emptying canteens and burning socks but I am guessing his fans like that kind of thing. His style of play was great at winning every vote but the last which is all that really matters in the end. I am not saying his style of play was terrible but I am saying it was not the best in Survivor because it focused too much on getting to the end than the end itself.
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